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		It seems that eviter will not proc for arrow based attacks if you are only holding a weapon in your main hand, it works for if there's a weapon in your sub-equip though.
EX:
Person A is equipped with galdric knuckleduster and in their sub-hand is a metalic magical gauntlet(a hand slot equip, not weapon) and is Ghost/Verglas
Person B Is using Aerial Razor
Person B shoots with Aerial razor, Person A will never proc eviter when they are facing Person B
	
	
	
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		That's because Eviter requires a sub weapon.
	
	
	
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		It doesn't require a sub-weapon, it just uses it by default.
	
	
	
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		No other parry skills equipped and active? What about player debug info?
	
	
	
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		Debug: Eviter: Carapace Crossbow, , S was a weapon so no dice.
This was the only message related to eviter, with a fist weapon equipped and no other parry skills equipped, with rank 5 eviter and rank 5 protection from arrows, I attacked 10 times and got no Eviter proc.
Weapon being used was a thorn shooter, the eviter did not proc on basic attack nor autohit.
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		I can say, from all of my experiences, that Eviter does not proc from any attack if there is no sub-weapon, when the description states it should (it states that the main weapon will be used if there is no sub-weapon).
	
	
	
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		Test this again in the next version and include any debug messages it gives you.
	
	
	
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		Tested without subweapon vs bamboo-bo
Code:
Debug: Checking resistance effects and listing them below for 100 Slash damage with a bonus of 0% resistance.
Resist Okay? Yes--------------------------
Tough Fur; 0
Ammendum; 0
Pure Fire; 0
Hard Light; 0
Quest Stamps; 0
Golden Glow; 0
Monster Elemental Affinity; 0
Customization Dres; 0
Item el_res() and sayakana; 0
Elemental Weakness Status; 0
Bonus Resistance; 0
Elem Mod Status Effects; 0
Debug: 0&&1
Debug:   0 
Debug: Attack - /obj/skill/fe_attack
Debug: attack_pow: wep_pw (15) increases Power to 116
Debug: Total Power for Windbark Staff / Windbark Staff was 123.5.
Debug: Basic Attack - Weapon Windbark Staff; 0
Debug: attack_pow: wep_pw (15) increases Power to 116
Debug: Total Power for Windbark Staff / Windbark Staff was 123.5.
Debug: 0&&1
Tested with sub-weapon vs bamboo-bo
Code:
Debug: Total Power for Windbark Staff / Windbark Staff was 123.5.
Debug: Mercalan Mist Bonus Evade: 0
Debug: Checking resistance effects and listing them below for 41.75 Blunt damage with a bonus of 0% resistance.
Resist Okay? Yes--------------------------
Ammendum; 0
Pure Fire; 0
Hard Light; 0
Quest Stamps; 0
Golden Glow; 0
Monster Elemental Affinity; 0
Customization Dres; 0
Item el_res() and sayakana; 0
Elemental Weakness Status; 0
Bonus Resistance; 0
Elem Mod Status Effects; 0
Debug: Checking resistance effects and listing them below for 100 Blunt damage with a bonus of 0% resistance.
Resist Okay? Yes--------------------------
Ammendum; 0
Pure Fire; 0
Hard Light; 0
Quest Stamps; 0
Golden Glow; 0
Monster Elemental Affinity; 0
Customization Dres; 0
Item el_res() and sayakana; 0
Elemental Weakness Status; 0
Bonus Resistance; 0
Elem Mod Status Effects; 0
Debug: Checking resistance effects and listing them below for 100 Blunt damage with a bonus of 0% resistance.
Resist Okay? Yes--------------------------
Ammendum; 0
Pure Fire; 0
Hard Light; 0
Quest Stamps; 0
Golden Glow; 0
Monster Elemental Affinity; 0
Customization Dres; 0
Item el_res() and sayakana; 0
Elemental Weakness Status; 0
Bonus Resistance; 0
Elem Mod Status Effects; 0
Debug: Checking resistance effects and listing them below for 100 Blunt damage with a bonus of 0% resistance.
Resist Okay? Yes--------------------------
Ammendum; 0
Pure Fire; 0
Hard Light; 0
Quest Stamps; 0
Golden Glow; 0
Monster Elemental Affinity; 0
Customization Dres; 0
Item el_res() and sayakana; 0
Elemental Weakness Status; 0
Bonus Resistance; 0
Elem Mod Status Effects; 0
Debug: Checking resistance effects and listing them below for 100 Blunt damage with a bonus of 0% resistance.
Resist Okay? Yes--------------------------
Ammendum; 0
Pure Fire; 0
Hard Light; 0
Quest Stamps; 0
Golden Glow; 0
Monster Elemental Affinity; 0
Customization Dres; 0
Item el_res() and sayakana; 0
Elemental Weakness Status; 0
Bonus Resistance; 0
Elem Mod Status Effects; 0
tested with the same messages, from both sides (Attacker and reciever), the second log proc'd eviter.
Though I can say that the main-hand weapon still doesn't eviter attacks.
	
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		Okay, but where are the Eviter debug messages?
	
	
	
	
	
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		They were not caught in the debug tab or regular tab, so that's what I'm wondering here actually, but after logging back on to do a re-test these debug messages appeared, and I honest to god don't know why these didn't pop up earlier, cause I pasted the whole log that popped up but here you go.
sorry about that.
Code:
Debug: Mercalan Mist Bonus Evade: 0
Debug: Mercalan Mist Bonus Evade: 0
Debug: Eviter: No parrying weapon found.
Debug: Checking resistance effects and listing them below for 124.5 Blunt damage with a bonus of 0% resistance.
Resist Okay? Yes--------------------------
Ammendum; 0
Pure Fire; 0
Hard Light; 0
Quest Stamps; 0
Golden Glow; 0
Monster Elemental Affinity; 0
Customization Dres; 0
Item el_res() and sayakana; 0
Elemental Weakness Status; 0
Bonus Resistance; 0
Elem Mod Status Effects; 0
Debug: Eviter: Windbark Staff, , S was a weapon so no dice.
Debug: Checking resistance effects and listing them below for 100 Blunt damage with a bonus of 0% resistance.
Resist Okay? Yes--------------------------
Ammendum; 0
Pure Fire; 0
Hard Light; 0
Quest Stamps; 0
Golden Glow; 0
Monster Elemental Affinity; 0
Customization Dres; 0
Item el_res() and sayakana; 0
Elemental Weakness Status; 0
Bonus Resistance; 0
Elem Mod Status Effects; 0
This was with no sub-weapon.
And this is with a sub-weapon:
Code:
Debug: Eviter: Chance of 71 was not successful.
Debug: Checking resistance effects and listing them below for 124.5 Blunt damage with a bonus of 0% resistance.
Resist Okay? Yes--------------------------
Ammendum; 0
Pure Fire; 0
Hard Light; 0
Quest Stamps; 0
Golden Glow; 0
Monster Elemental Affinity; 0
Customization Dres; 0
Item el_res() and sayakana; 0
Elemental Weakness Status; 0
Bonus Resistance; 0
Elem Mod Status Effects; 0
Debug: Eviter: Windbark Staff, , S was a weapon so no dice.
Debug: Checking resistance effects and listing them below for 100 Blunt damage with a bonus of 0% resistance.
Resist Okay? Yes--------------------------
Ammendum; 0
Pure Fire; 0
Hard Light; 0
Quest Stamps; 0
Golden Glow; 0
Monster Elemental Affinity; 0
Customization Dres; 0
Item el_res() and sayakana; 0
Elemental Weakness Status; 0
Bonus Resistance; 0
Elem Mod Status Effects; 0
Again, sorry for the little failure on my end there.
	
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