[Rendar]

I am once again asking for Dark Moshers to not refund 2m for attacking them.

Genuinely. YOu get 10 FP, 2 Momentum, and you attack that tile.

If a DB or one of his allies is standing on that tile? And you crit?

You spend 3m. You get 2m for smashing the tile. Then you get another 1m or 2m (fleur) for critting the target.

Sure. You take like 35 dark damage or whatever. But you are getting quite literally a free hit, or are now momentum POSITIVE from the attack. Which is just a spit in the face of the Darkbard.

DARK MOSHERS ARE ACTUALLY THROWING ON MOST OCCASIONS VERSUS BASIC ATTACKERS.

[Autumn]

there's basically no reason for them to restore momentum, they're not dense objects so they'll never impede a monster's ability to attack you, I just think they shouldn't be attackable in general, but if they should remain attackable if they should remain a reward for the attacker, maybe the momentum gain should change to a small heal instead. (like 30-40 HP)

[Raigen.Convict]

Why are we rewarding attacking these again? 35 dark damage wirh no benenefits like every other attackable.

[Rendar]

there's basically no reason for them to restore momentum, they're not dense objects so they'll never impede a monster's ability to attack you, I just think they shouldn't be attackable in general, but if they should remain attackable if they should remain a reward for the attacker, maybe the momentum gain should change to a small heal instead. (like 30-40 HP)

You take damage for attacking them.

You just also get 10 FP and 2 momentum.

[Poruku]

Yeah it's very silly. I think the point of this is to make it less cheesy versus mob AI, as they love to attack them. Just make the AI not want to attack them please?

[Nekojinn]

I believe a nice compromise would be to make it so you don't gain momentum if you damaged someone on the same action.

That way it keeps it's Anti-AI cheese and lets Dark Bards exist against Monster Spine users.

[TheGhostlyKnight]

I believe a nice compromise would be to make it so you don't gain momentum if you damaged someone on the same action.

That way it keeps it's Anti-AI cheese and lets Dark Bards exist against Monster Spine users.

They should just not gain momentum period honestly. If anything just increase the FP gain if you really wanna give something for attacking them. OR if you wanna be silly, make them give 10 darkness hype per one hit to the enemy. (I don't entirely recommend this one though idk how it'd go)

[Rendar]

Mob AI was fixed so that they are less prone to just spamming basics on the Moshers.

And now they instead just rapidly approach players, at the total disregard of summons unless ACTIVELY in attack range of a summon.