03-18-2023, 11:33 AM 
	
	
	![[Image: jWBA69y.png]](https://i.imgur.com/jWBA69y.png)
Grandupper is not instantly killing normal mobs at level 8 sturm.
Steps to recreate:
Fight mobs in new dungeons.
Get level 8 sturm.
Use Grandupper.
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		03-18-2023, 11:33 AM 
	
	 ![[Image: jWBA69y.png]](https://i.imgur.com/jWBA69y.png) Grandupper is not instantly killing normal mobs at level 8 sturm. Steps to recreate: Fight mobs in new dungeons. Get level 8 sturm. Use Grandupper. 
		
		
		03-18-2023, 04:11 PM 
	
	 
		Pretty sure dev made all mobs more than ten levels higher than player level flat out immune to ALL insta kills.
	 
		
		
		04-12-2023, 12:08 AM 
	
	 
		Correct. Monsters exceeding a certain level above yours are immune to instant defeat effects now.
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