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I believe that ultimately dismissing concerns as to how things are handled by the GMs as distasteful and disrespectful to the victims is essentially yourself shirking any accountability for decisions, however messy they may be, in the interests of making those with valid concerns look bad. You cannot in one breath say that people have valid concerns and that you understand them, and then insult the voices that bring them.

People were told to take this to the forums or to modmail, as this would be a better place for that then general. This post seems like an emotional reaction, so it's not exactly the most thought out or anything. Knee jerk is the word I can grant there. There are victims, and those victims have been through a lot, but that does not pave the way for GMs - not the victims themselves - to hide behind that when difficult but understandable questions are asked.

I am not sure where you get the idea I'm hiding behind anything, but I assure you that is far from the truth. 

As commendable as the effort is on Hoot's part to attempt to do better and be better, the fact of the matter is that someone's livelihood was put in danger. That is not something you can simply apologize for and "do your time" for. Doxxing should have always been a permanent ban offense, and just because it was not treated that way back in the day does not mean we cannot realize how egregious of a mistake that is and work to amend those mistakes. 

The case is an old one, and admittedly pre-dates my time here on Sigrogana Legends 2. That is exactly why it was studied carefully, and exactly why we reached the conclusions we did. Combined with fresh information made available to us, it helped paint a clearer picture surrounding the case and the events that occurred back then. I firmly stand by our decision in this ban, and I will not be wavered in this.

My only regret in any of this is that Hoot was put through this emotional roller coaster, and I do wish them all the best moving forward. However, cases like these cannot afford any exceptions.

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This is a very complicated topic -- I can 100% understand feeling unsafe even if a person had improved since then, if they're still present. I've been severely emotionally scarred and more in the past, in other games. On one hand, I don't like the premise of re-evaluating old bans and redoing punishment if no new 'crimes' were discovered. On the other, I think I'd be okay with it if a solid statement was given that this only applies to doxxing, and LITERAL crimes -- as in the most severe cases, it should never have been tolerated in the first place.

Secondly, I wanted to add - I've been apart of this game for a pretty long while, and lately, my motivation has been at an all time low. A lot of discourse in the community has had me feeling less motivated, and a lot of the unclarity about what the GMs will do next has too. But I want ot add-- half the GMs are people I consider friends, or at least people I like -- and they were players too before being GMs. They have to make a lot of hard decisions, and that's important to understand too -- that sort of role does mean at times making decisions people wont like, and with one like this, I really do not know what the right answer is-- though a statement about redoing bans would be good, with some in-place, firm rules so there is no confusion.

For me, though -- mostly, I wanted to say, despite arguments, or so on, and my general feelings about the game -- I do want to see it succeed, and I hope if I get my motivation back I can enjoy it again someday. I've always liked it here, and I'd like to see people take less sides, and actually try to understand each other. Obviously, in some cases, some people are just bad -- and those people should be removed. But I've never been good around conflict, so it can be rough.

That's mostly my two cents, though.

Re-evaluating cases will be reserved for similarly extreme circumstances such as this instance. It's not something we will do lightly, as we understand how concerning it may be that previously banned members who are doing better for themselves facing more ban time simply because some old logs were fished up (as an example). 

This is not something that will be abused, and the GM team works vigilantly to ensure this is the case.