[1starbob]

I think it's odd to say "You can interact with the people of a nation without having to harangue someone personally" because I mean sure you can always just vibe in a city that just so happens to have a leader that doesn't like you, but if you want to: join the government/join the guards/buy land/communicate antagonism/make an influence/etc your likely going to run into the leader who doesn't like you OOCly and your likely going to be forced to talk to them due to their position. Someone prior to joining a leadership position should've asked themselves "Can I handle talking to people I probably won't like" because due to their new position they should've known it's probably gonna happen.

That's a bit of a nuclear option and demands people who are already putting a lot of time into their environment to be extremely tolerant rather than asking the people they're expected to interact with to be even mildly tolerable.

But it's funny that the original problem stated was even worse. The original concern was that not only are you potentially blocked by someone in that position, it's that you're also up to the 'mercy' (tolerance) of both the GMs and potentially the eventmins that you could talk to as well. Which means you're not just worried about ONE person being generally not unavailable to talking to you, you're worried about NUMEROUS people not wanting to do it.

So far, the GMs have gone out of their way to ensure that people in those leadership positions act with a reasonable enough measure of good faith. If you're worried that someone would fail the test of scrutiny from so many people, though, then I don't really think that you're even measuring it in terms of good faith for this 'ostracized' party. You're measuring in 'This person isn't enjoyable to be around but they should still be allowed to be here and other people to be forced to interact with them because...' Reasons. I don't know why.

Maybe just try to be fun to be around. Most antagonists ARE. Sawrock is the epitome of what so many claim to have a problem with but they're FUN TO BE AROUND SO PEOPLE LIKE HIM.

Yeah no I messed up- didn't know the original issue was EMs/GMs saw newest post with giant fire letters then saw what was being responded to and thought "Is this about leaders..." and then posted the above with that assumption instead of reading up. The whole "Interacting with people of a nation" bit confused me and I shoulda read up/maybe not responded so I do apologize. GMs and EMs I don't think thus far what I've said would be as big of an issue with GMs/EMs. If a EM or a GM for some reason doesn't chill with you, it's really possible to just go to another one. I've talked to plenty of people who have a favorite GM that they usually go to for stuff and it's the same with EMs. If you've somehow made the entire EM/GM team mad- then no what you said at the end of the post I was responding to is absolutely right that says more about you then it does the system we are dealing with. I also don't see what I was talking about really being an issue with leaders as they are currently, as they all seem chill at a glance! 

I apologize for my miss understanding of the original issue and thank you for the response back. I'll be noping out of this thread now-