[Revy]

For all of the people hammering on the GM team for not providing complete logs of the entire situation, I think it's also important to note that not a single one of the ban appeals really shows any kind of contrition. In fact, some of them even go as far as throwing other members of the community under the bus.

Using excuses such as:
-The GMs were in the Discord and should have put a stop to it. (Already covered in Balthie's previous post.)
-Another ground (Hearth) was doing the same or worse.

Tells me that they either still don't understand their behavior was wrong or worse, simply don't care. It makes me think the bans should be extended until they've at least proven they won't be participating in the same behavior that got them banned initially.

It's also concerning to see the amount of people who say they have no idea what's really happening because of a lack of evidence while simultaneously saying the banned users are innocent. You can't have it both ways.

Welp, got home to start formulating my own response to see this upon refreshing the page, so thought I'd immediately respond to this first.
It's concerning to see some people proposing such and trying to defend the verdict while ignoring the big picture. There was no communication on things bar some vague stuff after. You can't tell me in all good faith that punishing people for speaking their mind on things is in any way appropriate. Hell. The issue is that the "same behaviour that got them banned initially" wasn't clearly communicated beforehand. It was just straight in the cop car, no ifs or buts, no trial, nothing. Hard to "show any kind of contrition" when people believe they're innocent (and in many's eyes, are) On the subject of "another ground was doing the same or worse," when you get (unjustly in my opinion at least to a certain level) punished for something you see others doing/the other side potentially doing, it's pretty natural to go "But that guy's doing the exact same! Why isn't he being bundled into this cop car too?!". It's concerning that some feel the need to harass or belittle people for raising concerns. Be it about how they were treated, or for saying "Hang on a moment, something about this verdict doesn't seem right."

I know it won't mean too much in the grand scheme of things, as the verdict has been made, but I personally believe that the way this has been handled is at best completely wrong. As Appo pointed out, where was the course correction if those responsible want to stand by their verdict? If this stuff was going on for months as has been stated, then why not nip it in the bud and go "Ey, mate, y'might wanna tone your behaviour down a tad or we're gonna have to step in."

If it is as Kunai supposed in the other thread, that it was Croakie being the main target of the ban wave and others being caught in the crossfire for daring to be associated? That's absolutely unacceptable in my opinion. As is the petty behaviour of 4*'ing the unban threads, honestly, no matter who did it. The fact that nothing of your findings is released to 'protect' people is fine enough, but what about when people abuse that in order to get someone they don't like banned? Not giving the other side the ability to even defend themselves and reach the truth means that someone could well get away with the self-same charges that people're being accused of. Not necessarily saying this IS the case. The Hearth could be innocent, the other Don could be innocent. I don't know. I don't want to think that people would be so petty or biased, but it's hard not to have those kinds of thoughts.