[Kyratio]

I believe its fair to know your accusers,  I saw ashvath and Yuri exit fairview via the western exit towards the goblin cave, I only brought it up since the pair did not stop to say anything in looc.

I assumed it was simply to do something oocly, didn't accuse them of IC shenanigans, fairview doesn't have a bank but I'd consider them to IC use the storehouse in the town,  Or it could have been an inn run, or heck it could have been something like void veil that needs to be reset in pve, which is also fine, or it could have been spirits swapping from a grind set to a non grind set.

Either way I was personally fine with any of that, I let several other members of fairview who were "sparring" on a later day run off to nemalyth crystals/wasgow's inn for heals oocly.

On this matter, it's genuinely just I don't know who you saw but it wasn't me or Ash. We hadn't logged in since the first day of the raid and we logged in right after we were accused to prove it, I probably still have the screenshots where it shows we were offline for however many in-game hours taken that very day somewhere. 

I'm not sure why it was made such a big deal of regardless as even if we had, like you said, it would've been entirely for OOC reasons as any attempts at some sort of IC escape would've literally just gotten us banned and made well, no sense whatsoever? But yeah, we had no reason to leave, we had no reason to even get on the game. It's kind of appalling how big of a deal people make out of things like this when there literally wasn't even any proof aside from someone saying they saw it. 

I personally wouldn't have even cared so much about it if someone I knew wasn't being caught up in the middle of the drama that followed, and then later finding out Dev with no evidence, no reason for us to even do that, no proof when he checked our save files and genuinely no reason for him to believe it aside from "I have no reason to believe why someone would lie about that." Well... That kind of says something to me! 

Furthermore, just to state my opinion since so many other people have, this is an RP game. A place for people to play out fantasies, characters or stories that they build upon, thought of, or just kind of play out on the fly. I understand many people's stories conflict, and many people's stories are... Well, on the more intense and disruptive side of things. Some people might even play for some sort of power high. The reason I say this is at every turn, every conflict, every decision that was made in Fairview was literally just to try and encourage fun, be it antagonistic, or be it just reactions.

This is not me stating facts, just our opinions and thoughts on everything that went down, I understand that many may disagree, but I again, hope that some people will at least be able to look past the loud voices or those who refuse to see it any other way.

When we first made Fairview, our whole idea was to make a place that was accepting of everyone, a place that promoted lots of different types of RP. An antag could come in and attack us on the spot without worry of being instantly killed by the guards, people who were fleeing from guards in other towns could come and try to convince us to allow them to take refuge, so they wouldn't just have to just forever afk their character during the duration of time that people are out to get them while awaiting a resolution. People could just casually come and go as they pleased as those who properly lived there continued to build and work towards a village that would eventually become a trade town of sorts. We were trying to sort out all of our professions and setup a shop, yadda yadda.

But, then the conflict with Beggar's Hole and Geladyne started and we found ourselves involved because a newer member of Fairview found themselves jailed, being held for a week OOCly (Maybe more? Don't quote me.) and, stated to have been given only two options. Death, or character death by mind control. This not only felt unfair on an OOC level, but on an IC level, was just ridiculous. It was Geladyne, and at the time Geladyne was seemingly supposed to be the big bad though, so... OOCly, none of us really tried to argue with it. After all, the first Premier made quite a showing for Geladyne to start off. So, we ICly spent about 4 days, maybe a week at most, preparing a little event to break Mana out. We based our plan around the same plan Tana and their group so nicely pulled off but with more included. We didn't know about the attack on Beggar's Hole ICly or OOCly by the time the plans had been made, it was genuinely just a coincidence. We actually wanted to do it sooner, but time restrictions! 

After that, it felt like a lot of people just oocly decided that Fairview was a lot like Beggar's Hole and some sort of antagonistic faction. And, honestly... From that point on with the ban of Henrik, with the leaving of so many various important people, with the intense amount of focus everyone put on us, we genuinely couldn't do much at all in regards to our plans. Yes, our actions should have consequences, but I'd like to remind everyone that we did have consequences. We were unable to continue the story we were trying to make, we weren't even able to really go out much and RP because everyone was quite literally out to get someone who was supposedly going to be released anyway, and someone who literally wasn't even a part of the group who broke Mana out because... Well, in my opinion, a community issue.

Soon enough, there was a very obvious attack made on Fairview on a... Well, mental level. People were focusing out specific people because of OOC knowledge they had about them. People were trying to trick others, manipulate them, and honestly, they were successful because these people on an IC and OOC level trusted them. It's really sad that people went so far as to break a trust like that simply to push a narrative to go after someone because of their OOC feelings about them.

Eventually, it came down to there was one person that everyone hated in Fairview all because of OOC drama, and even when they were given IC consequences again, and again, and again, a specific group continued to push harder and harder, very clearly trying to remove this person from being able to play the game. This why I state that there was a lot of OOC involved with the Fairview situation. It's not about what all happened ICly, it's about an inherent problem with a specific part of this community. 

Rather than move on and play a character, many people take OOC grudges and force it into their IC. They hate a character because of who it's played by. They suddenly do something drastic and make a situation much bigger because of who a character is played by. I've literally seen it happen the moment some of these people realize certain characters are this person, and it's really, sad. 

Everyone is going to be incompatible with certain people, everyone is going to hurt other people be it on accident, or on purpose. Everyone will inevitably make someone else angry. You can be the kindest person in the world, and someone will resent that. You can be the angriest person in the world, and someone will respect that. The problems comes when people aren't willing to forgive, or even give someone a chance to be forgiven, or to apologize. The problem comes when people split off into small groups and spread rumors, or opinions that suddenly turn into facts amongst a little group, which then becomes more rumors. The problem is when people get angry about genuine things people have done, and then brood over it rather than trying to understand why someone did something. Of course, if you hate someone, yeah. Most people aren't going to try to understand. But everyone goes through terrible times in their life, everyone does things they'll regret sometimes. That doesn't make them unredeemable. That doesn't mean they need to be treated like some sort of BBEG that needs to be "shown humility" or "put in their place." 

Feel free to pick and tear apart specific places of all this to try and make me look bad, or to try and nullify my point here, but I feel like I've explained enough to make my point pretty obvious here. This isn't just an SL2 problem, I've seen it happen to others, even outside of the Byond community. It's just something that needs to be realized, and actually resolved. But, most of the time people aren't willing to ever meet halfway for things like this. 

Best of luck to everyone in the SL2 community! I hope Korvara becomes whatever Dev actually wants it to be and can be successful. I hope everyone can aim towards making RP more fun for everyone, and not fall into the same bad tendencies as Eternia, or DU, or RPT, or all the other heavily conflict focused RP games on Byond out there. Sigro was something special in that it avoided that. Korvara is the new Sigro, and it seems to have removed that special part from itself and is leaning into the same exact thing all the others have done. Conflict isn't bad. But nothing but conflict just leads to burn out.