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Small Buff to Criticals.
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(02-01-2021, 05:21 PM)Snake Wrote: Critical Hits ignoring Armor? Initially I thought 'pog!' but I came to realize. Some adjustments to the overall game will be necessary in answer to that.

- Black Knight for once, could use its original Critical Evade back. Other classes could have creative ways to increase their Critical Evade or Critical Hit, since it's so important now.
- If your raw Physical Defense is now your only bet against damage from Critical Hits, then things like Burn and Rampaging have to be nerfed slightly. Or else building for defense will be meaningless if whatever you invest and gain from bonuses is just scrapped off so easily. It's like giving every character in the world mini-Buster Cannons and saying 'this is fair and balanced, just dodge lmao' when they have no more than 3 CEL and 44 LUC.
- Fleur and Duelist will now be more meta than before, especially if Ghost is now only adding more damage to them. Claret Call was their way of 'ignoring armor', now they'll be able to ignore armor AND deal up to bonus 80 damage every slap close to a graveyard. I'd be the first advocate against them in this case. Basic Hit Kensei can crack a root beer because pretty much it's all they needed out of crit buffs. But Ghost's only going to become superior overall.
- Bows are now superior guns, since they CAN and WILL critically hit you no matter what you do, while not suffering from low scaling or range issues.
- People can get 100% Critical Hit too easy. People can't get 100% Critical Evade without shooting themselves in the foot, or being a Priest/FAI-based Mage.

Pretty much a lot of what Snake is saying here is actually what will end up happening, in particular his argument that defense shredding becoming one of the best damage boosts in the game is the concerning factor for me, you can already do so much tank shredding with Burn and/or Rampaging that removing armor from the critical hit equation would turn attempting to tank onto its head completely.

He is also correct in that building critical evade is not something you just do normally, its a happen-stance of your build generally if you decided you wanted LUC or FAI, and generally picking up these stats will end up taking away from your overall tankiness anyways, hell with Negation being nerfed into being not even half of what it used to be, even BKs will struggle to mitigate critical hit rate down to the 20s without some serious dedication in their build.

(02-01-2021, 06:04 PM)Miller Wrote: Potential Suggestions
A) Ignore armor on critical hits as a way to ramp up basic hits.
B) Add armor penetration to guile, 1 per 5 points or 2 per 5 points should add more value to the stat. (8 or 16 at 40 guile)
C) Add more ways for basic hitters to reduce armor, perhaps via rampaging or another status effect.

I would opt in for option B myself, as it at least ties it all into a stat, but another suggestion I could add to the pile is for critical hits to ignore half of a target's armor instead of all of it, people may dislike tanks in the current landscape of things but diminishing a stat thats already been nerfed very recently is going to make them feel pretty terrible to play, especially when the problem isn't even full tanks, its mostly tanky mages/SWA gougers.
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Small Buff to Criticals. - by Balor - 01-30-2021, 02:55 PM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by Neus - 01-30-2021, 03:15 PM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by Balor - 01-30-2021, 03:21 PM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by Syeburn - 02-02-2021, 05:26 PM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by Senna - 01-30-2021, 06:59 PM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by Autumn - 01-30-2021, 07:24 PM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by Balor - 01-30-2021, 11:41 PM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by Autumn - 01-30-2021, 11:47 PM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by Balor - 01-31-2021, 01:00 AM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by Senna - 01-31-2021, 04:13 AM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by Sawrock - 01-31-2021, 04:41 AM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by Balor - 01-31-2021, 04:55 AM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by Fern - 01-31-2021, 05:36 AM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by K Peculier - 01-31-2021, 07:02 AM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by Miller - 01-31-2021, 07:45 AM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by Balor - 01-31-2021, 11:34 AM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by Snake - 02-01-2021, 05:21 PM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by Miller - 02-01-2021, 06:04 PM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by Autumn - 02-01-2021, 07:20 PM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by Snake - 02-02-2021, 02:32 AM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by Lolzytripd - 02-02-2021, 04:04 AM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by Trexmaster - 02-02-2021, 08:09 AM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by Snake - 02-02-2021, 05:24 PM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by Autumn - 02-02-2021, 07:32 PM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by Senna - 02-02-2021, 07:33 PM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by Balor - 02-03-2021, 05:28 AM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by Fern - 03-18-2021, 08:09 PM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by Sawrock - 03-18-2021, 10:32 PM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by Snake - 03-18-2021, 10:43 PM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by Senna - 03-18-2021, 10:45 PM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by Autumn - 03-19-2021, 12:00 AM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by Akame - 03-19-2021, 03:55 AM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by WaifuApple - 03-19-2021, 04:45 AM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by Snake - 03-19-2021, 02:44 PM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by Lolzytripd - 03-19-2021, 03:53 PM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by Senna - 03-19-2021, 05:26 PM
RE: Small Buff to Criticals. - by Snake - 03-19-2021, 05:34 PM

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