05-09-2017, 08:55 PM
As someone who has been using Bonder on and off, mostly recently with one of my characters, I can honestly agree wholeheartedly with this. After a few brief tests and even delving into the "scum" that is Bonder/Priest, I realized that the damage output Youkai can give someone is ridiculous. I will admit that in order to get 3 Bonded Youkai to level 60, it took me about 14 hours of solid grinding (Which I did in the span of two days due to IC reasons) and it was painful, but evidently well worth it. The funny thing is that I never even bothered to possess myself with a Fast Offense white spirit because 1.5x damage from Holy is honestly frightening to deal with.
But I digress. I have still used one of those spirits in a Bonder/MG build and it was honestly repulsive how much damage I could deal. Why even bother using my guns when I can use Fast Offense and summon 3 Youkai in the span of 1 1/2 turns and have them dish out ~300 damage on squishy players EACH for minimal cost? For that reason alone, I disagree with the A because having 3 Bonded Youkai make this severely daunting for anyone to face. Can't hit someone? Fast Offense and summon a Youkai to deal arguably more damage than I would have with 7 momentum worth of attacks. Not only this, but a very clever combo that can be done is using a Youkai spell, then summoning said Youkai with Fast Offense and using the same spell two more times, thus letting you use a Youkai spell 3 times in a single turn if you already have Fast Offense in use.
Needless to say, as much of a pain as Youkai are to level up, especially for Grand Summoners, I don't think the amount of time invested into Bonder should reward them as greatly. As I've said, it only took me about 14 hours of solid grinding to have 3 Bonded Youkai and have them reach level 60. I personally feel more inclined to agree with B because this way it lets someone pop a Youkai and have them move and attack (or attack twice in a single turn with a spirit) on the same turn they were summoned. This makes it fairer and easier to deal with as someone facing a Bonder as well.
But I digress. I have still used one of those spirits in a Bonder/MG build and it was honestly repulsive how much damage I could deal. Why even bother using my guns when I can use Fast Offense and summon 3 Youkai in the span of 1 1/2 turns and have them dish out ~300 damage on squishy players EACH for minimal cost? For that reason alone, I disagree with the A because having 3 Bonded Youkai make this severely daunting for anyone to face. Can't hit someone? Fast Offense and summon a Youkai to deal arguably more damage than I would have with 7 momentum worth of attacks. Not only this, but a very clever combo that can be done is using a Youkai spell, then summoning said Youkai with Fast Offense and using the same spell two more times, thus letting you use a Youkai spell 3 times in a single turn if you already have Fast Offense in use.
Needless to say, as much of a pain as Youkai are to level up, especially for Grand Summoners, I don't think the amount of time invested into Bonder should reward them as greatly. As I've said, it only took me about 14 hours of solid grinding to have 3 Bonded Youkai and have them reach level 60. I personally feel more inclined to agree with B because this way it lets someone pop a Youkai and have them move and attack (or attack twice in a single turn with a spirit) on the same turn they were summoned. This makes it fairer and easier to deal with as someone facing a Bonder as well.
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