[Rendar]

Daisuke » Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:22 am[/url]"]First thing I see when I see VA is Resourceful. Second thing I see is them being divided up into a mage VA or a melee VA. And from that you'll probably use like 3-6 skills at the most, 3 of which are covered by resourceful.
From there, you'll grab the utility stuff from your sub class because you've already covered your main method of attacking.

Classes that come from duelist are usually full of innates and equip like 3 things and grab PG, riposte, and fluer from duelist itself.
BK will most likely just grab hanging, every innate, and with whatever points they have left they put into steel mind/body etc. You probably won't even touch soldier skills.
Verglas depends on build but a cel focused verglas just needs ice point, greaves, and rapid kick. Str verglas doesn't care about anything in particular since their moves aren't as useful without chaining into a different style (which means a mixed build) (and verglas has will growth on top of that)
Monk also depends on your build since they have a variety of scaling like Verglas and all you'll grab from MA is shukuchi, heaven kick, and meditate if you have a lot of skill.

And keep in mind, low will means a low FP pool so these melee classes don't even want to grab a bunch of skills since they'd much rather prefer abilities they can always make use rather than being limited by their FP and unlike mages that get a variety of different elemental damage, the only real variation for melee is either being an auto hit, a crit, or doing magic damage to bypass high defense. So once you cover your bases all that's left is utility which is mostly in innates.

So, first off "Void Assassin", lets look at what skills they will grab as a melee VA. Fray, Cutthroat, Blotch, Void Gate, Void Veil, Veil Off, Deadly Arms, Advancing Flow, Backstab, and the other 3 innates.

Out of those, Cutthroat, Void Veil, Veil Off, Deadly Arms, and Advancing Flow will always be equipped, for the most part. Now we look at their .base. class Rogue. What would a VA want to take from their? All of the winds, Steal, Flank, Resourceful, and Wind Dancer. 5 from the base, 5 from the Promotion. That's 10 skills right there. If they've got 10 will < which most people get, but not all > they'll have 15 total skill slots. That means for whatever other class they have, they have to take only 5 skills. Not much to work off of, right?

Duelists. Let's go the Ghost route since Kensei's are used primarily for innates. Ghosts will almost always take EI, Wraithguard, Haunting, Last Chance, and generally Rebound, tacked on with their innates. Thats 5 skills, not including any weapon specific ones people take. Now lets look at Duelist. Sidecut, PG, L'au-Dela, Sharpen, Riposte, Fleur. That is 6 skills. Ghost would take 11 skill slots. if they wanted all that and wanted to team it up with something else, that leaves their other class .one. skill slot.

BKs, unlike you think, take a .lot. of skills. Hanging, Checkmate, Crescent Rook, Castling, Forced Move < Only in tandem with a Shinken User >, Steel Mind, Sudden Death, Prophylaxis, Stalemate, THEN their innates. So barring Forced Move and Steel Mind, what do most BKs take? 7 Skills from BK. They also take some shit from Soldier, like Shinken, Turn-over, or Round Trip. A possibility of 3 skills taken from Soldier. So if they use a weapon that has 2 types, they get 9 skills, with 3 left to their sub.

Now, Verglas. Verglas verglas verglas. Only a jackass Cel user would .only. use Rapid Kick with Ice Greaves now. It got fixed, wherein it made its damage .actually. not bullshit. So it does about as much damage as Axe Kick, unless you set up with Ice Greaves < Which take 3 skill slots mind you! > So, lets assume you're a CEL build that uses STR and Chimera Style. Rising Kick, Axe Kick, Face Stomp, Rapid Kick, Ice Point, Ice Greaves, Chimera Style. 7 Skill slots right there. Lets see what Verglas would want to take from their base class. Heaven Kick, Meditate, Shukuchi, Cleanse Body, maybe peddling wheel or Evasive Strike. Thats a total of 5-6 from Martial Artist, so thats at 12-13 skill slots .just. taken up by Verglas.

Do you start to see a trend here..? Melee Classes, from just 1 class if they want to make the 'most of it' have to almost use every single skill slot to make it work. Leaving no room for a sub-class that isn't fucking kensei to work properly.